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T O P I C R E V I E WMoonfishWhat has your experience with this asteroid been like in synastry? Specifically you being the Amor (1221), how did it make you feel towards that person? Right now I'm experiencing these aspects and interested to know how it might turn out. his Amor conjuncts my Amor 2d his Amor conjuncts my Moon 1d my Amor conjuncts his North Node 1d Linda JonesHi Moonfish,I LOVE the fabulous gif you posted! It is spectacularly beautiful About Amor, I have an Amor/Psyche conjunction in my natal which is also conjunct my Asc. Mr. Pisces Moon (who I believe is my TF-still have to analyze our charts fully for the final verdict on that) has his Amor exactly conjunct my Amor/Psyche/Asc. conjunction.Amor/Psyche is one of the soul mate pairings. It brings about the selfless, more spiritual aspects of love which are so essential in loving someone unconditionally, i.e., through thick and thin.Let me look for what I was told about my synastry re: Amor/PsycheHere, this is what Ceri said-"But you already have the conjunction to ASC which makes Amor-Psyche a central theme.""...in astrology, Amor-Psyche is a very soulbased, deeply emotional kind of love, which lacks the urgent intensity of Eros` magnetism though.BUT Amor is not really platonic either, but he sees making love to psyche, as a way to express his deep seated feelings for her.But the feelings come first, then the sex."This is from pages 3 and 4 of the Heiros Gamos thread where you will find the complete myth of this pair- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000972.html In your case, with his Amor conjunct your Amor and Moon I would imagine there would be a deep soulfulness between you springing from selflessness. And this dedication (your selflessness toward him) would help pave the way for his destiny to actualize (conjunction to his NN).Hope this helps Linda JonesOh and re: how I feel as the Amor person-completely devoted. The attraction was instant from day 1 due to other overwhelming aspects in our synastry.But I definitely feel the Amor selflessness has been present from the beginning. In fact, if anything, the devotion and selflessness has grown even though we've been through a lot together-stuff that has transformed us at a very deep level.To give you an example-once he got mad at me and began to rail (rare for him because of his Pisces Moon). This might sound totally weird but, in the middle of his rant I had a thought (a very loud thought) go through my mind-I thought, "My God, I love this man so much." It surprised even me because I'm generally so particular about emotional health and not enabling mine or anyone's mental/emotional handicaps.So right then and there, when he paused for breath, I told him about my thought. Needless to say, that dissolved the anger, so we could go on to rationally discuss the real issue.But what remained in my mind was the experience of having this thought. That if I could feel such strong love for him in the middle of his anger toward me ... well then, that must be love at its purest and its best, right?I think this is the type of thing that happens when Amor is involved. LionessI haven't really paid attention to amour, but I wanted too check..Fishy amour is conjunct my chiron...I do feel like he's suppose to somehow help me or heal me to a sense..Idk what it means though.IndigoDiraeI agree, Linda.For me, it's almost a physical pain if I've disappointed, hurt, upset, or otherwise made him feel -any- kind of pain. I can then become VERY upset and angry myself. And, woe betide anyone who might've contributed to my causing this state of distress. No matter how great they are, they're temporarily NOT my favourite people, and the world just SUCKS.We have an interesting interplay, but the basics are:Our Amors trine. My Amor is right on his Ascendant and trines his NNode. His is exactly opposite my Moon (and his Karma), and loosely conjunct my Chiron. My Amor's (obviously) in his 1H, and his is in my 9H.-A.Stawrmy Amouropposes his Mercuryand his does not aspect minebut we have many other aspects that make us passionate for each other...but I will say I knew I liked him just from talking to him, and knew he is a catch. And so did he. and in my birth chartAmour is in Taurus house 12squares Marstrines SaturnIndigoDiraeLinda,Regarding the whole Amor-Psyche thing, I noticed something interesting. While it -seemed- like a sort of aspect we'd have, given the vibration between us, I was surprised to find it, in fact, just not there.What I DID find, however, was this: the Amor/Psyche midpoint. I was really surprised to find that we both have the Amor/Psyche midpoint, despite, however, the placements being Taurus/Aquarius and Capricorn/Gemini.Mine's 07 Libra, and his is 10. Pretty spiffy. Further, even though I haven't actually evaluated it as closely, I do know that mine is on his Juno. His is close enough to be conjunct mine, too, but it's a bit wide for my comfort.Another interesting affinity: my Amor's dwad is Libra, his Psyche's decanate is in Libra; his Amor's decanate is in Capricorn, and dwad in Aquarius; my Psyche's decanate AND dwad are both Aquarius. Not sure if the 'Psyche/Amor' MP actually counts, but I'm going to suggest it might.-A.Linda Jones^^ Yeah Indigo, very interesting.Hmm ... wonder what Ceri might have to say about this.I remember her saying somewhere (possibly on the HG thread) that only tight conjunctions to asteroid mps should be considered. Hope I'm right about this.Anyway it'll be good if she sees this thread.Thanks for the info, Indigo. Hope you're enjoying your writing. Ceridwen3 degrees for a midpoint are too wide.I am sure though it might be conjunct-opposite-square-semisquare-sesisquare something else within 1 degree orb.Also check the draconic charts and composite.CeridwenGood descripton of how Amor feels, Linda Jones and Indigo Dirae. Linda Jones quote:Originally posted by Lioness:I haven't really paid attention to amour, but I wanted too check..Fishy amour is conjunct my chiron...I do feel like he's suppose to somehow help me or heal me to a sense..Idk what it means though.Lioness, Amor conjunct Chiron would be good to have for matters related to healing, I would think.His Pisces/Neptune energy overall would also be able understand and empathize with your past wounds.Linda Jones quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Good descripton of how Amor feels, Linda Jones and Indigo Dirae. Thanks, Ceri. And thanks for clearing up the info on mid-pts.Lioness quote:Originally posted by Linda Jones: Lioness, Amor conjunct Chiron would be good to have for matters related to healing, I would think.His Pisces/Neptune energy overall would also be able understand and empathize with your past wounds.Thanks Hon. inthemisosoupMy Amor conjunct his Amor exact but out of sign at a critical degree. Mine is at 0'01 Aries and his is 29'53 Pisces. It is too soon in the relationship for me to comfortably talk about love but I care a lot for him. Moonfish@Linda Jones Thanks! I found it on google Very interesting outlook on Amor-Psyche, His Eros trines my Psyche would you say it's similar to your aspect? I'm also a Pisces moon btw ^^Wow I had no idea it could get that deep, it makes me really excited to know that we could have true unconditional love for eachother. Thank UMoonfish@LionessHmm sounds similar, if not better than the Venus-Chiron conjunction. Nice Moonfish@LionessHmm sounds similar, if not better than the Venus-Chiron conjunction. Nice Linda Jones quote:Originally posted by Moonfish:@Linda Jones Thanks! I found it on google Very interesting outlook on Amor-Psyche, His Eros trines my Psyche would you say it's similar to your aspect? I'm also a Pisces moon btw ^^Wow I had no idea it could get that deep, it makes me really excited to know that we could have true unconditional love for eachother. Thank UEros/Psyche is actually a soul mate/TF aspect provided the orb is no more than 2 degrees for a trine.Amor is different from Eros in that while Amor emphasizes the spiritual aspect, Eros represents spiritual/emotional and physical love. So with Amor/Psyche in synastry, there usually also has to be some other aspect like Adonis/Innanen, or Adonis/Astarte, to balance out the spectrum of human love.MoonfishOh I see! you've explained it better than the sites I've tried to research these aspects on I always thought eros-psyche was the ideal but I would much rather have a spiritual connection than a physical one.Your very lucky Linda Jones quote:Originally posted by Moonfish:Oh I see! you've explained it better than the sites I've tried to research these aspects on I always thought eros-psyche was the ideal but I would much rather have a spiritual connection than a physical one.Your very lucky Thanks I'm learning from some of the very best here - Ceri, Taineberry, and a lot of things from iQ too, even though he's so busy.As far as aspects go if you have Amor/Psyche as well as Eros/Psyche or Amor/Psyche with one of the other aspects I mentioned, it is ideal, I would think.As far as reality goes, I think having a spiritual/emotional connection is paramount in having that deep connection. But once you have that type of connection, there follows a natural tendency to express the emotional/spiritual connection thro physical intimacy which itself becomes very spiritual in nature, i.e., like the heiros gamos itself, which many TFs experience. CeridwenLittle did I know back than that my AMOR is actually conjunct his AMOR/PSYCHE-mp precisely. Both on 2°08 Sagittarius. Yes, down to the minute!Stella91In my natal chart, my 2H Aries Amor forms a trine with my 10H Sagittarius Sun & Mercury & Lucifer, a square with my 12H Capricorn Mars and Neptune, a sesquisquare with my 7H Virgo P Fort, a semi-square with my 1H Pisces Ceres, a conjunction with my Vesta, an opposition with my 8H Libra Pholus, a quincunx with my 8H Scorpio Ganymede, a sextile with my Aquarius AC and a sesquisquare with my Sagittarius MC. I have no clue how to interpret this! My Amor is also retrograde.Do you have an idea about what this could mean? I know Amor is probably strong in my chart, considering the aspects with Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, AC and MC.CeridwenSorry, but I can`t really wrap my mind around this. Too many constellations. I would need to see the image / visual.I'm so cappyIs Amor active and Psyche passive in this duo? What if there is an exact aspect between 2 Amors in synastry?------------------I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.lisalisaMy vesta & amor conjunct his amor exact, what does it mean?
Right now I'm experiencing these aspects and interested to know how it might turn out. his Amor conjuncts my Amor 2d his Amor conjuncts my Moon 1d my Amor conjuncts his North Node 1d
I LOVE the fabulous gif you posted! It is spectacularly beautiful
About Amor, I have an Amor/Psyche conjunction in my natal which is also conjunct my Asc. Mr. Pisces Moon (who I believe is my TF-still have to analyze our charts fully for the final verdict on that) has his Amor exactly conjunct my Amor/Psyche/Asc. conjunction.
Amor/Psyche is one of the soul mate pairings. It brings about the selfless, more spiritual aspects of love which are so essential in loving someone unconditionally, i.e., through thick and thin.
Let me look for what I was told about my synastry re: Amor/Psyche
Here, this is what Ceri said-
"But you already have the conjunction to ASC which makes Amor-Psyche a central theme."
"...in astrology, Amor-Psyche is a very soulbased, deeply emotional kind of love, which lacks the urgent intensity of Eros` magnetism though.BUT Amor is not really platonic either, but he sees making love to psyche, as a way to express his deep seated feelings for her.But the feelings come first, then the sex."
This is from pages 3 and 4 of the Heiros Gamos thread where you will find the complete myth of this pair- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000972.html
In your case, with his Amor conjunct your Amor and Moon I would imagine there would be a deep soulfulness between you springing from selflessness. And this dedication (your selflessness toward him) would help pave the way for his destiny to actualize (conjunction to his NN).
Hope this helps
But I definitely feel the Amor selflessness has been present from the beginning. In fact, if anything, the devotion and selflessness has grown even though we've been through a lot together-stuff that has transformed us at a very deep level.
To give you an example-once he got mad at me and began to rail (rare for him because of his Pisces Moon). This might sound totally weird but, in the middle of his rant I had a thought (a very loud thought) go through my mind-I thought, "My God, I love this man so much." It surprised even me because I'm generally so particular about emotional health and not enabling mine or anyone's mental/emotional handicaps.
So right then and there, when he paused for breath, I told him about my thought. Needless to say, that dissolved the anger, so we could go on to rationally discuss the real issue.
But what remained in my mind was the experience of having this thought. That if I could feel such strong love for him in the middle of his anger toward me ... well then, that must be love at its purest and its best, right?
I think this is the type of thing that happens when Amor is involved.
I do feel like he's suppose to somehow help me or heal me to a sense..
Idk what it means though.
For me, it's almost a physical pain if I've disappointed, hurt, upset, or otherwise made him feel -any- kind of pain. I can then become VERY upset and angry myself. And, woe betide anyone who might've contributed to my causing this state of distress. No matter how great they are, they're temporarily NOT my favourite people, and the world just SUCKS.
We have an interesting interplay, but the basics are:
Our Amors trine. My Amor is right on his Ascendant and trines his NNode. His is exactly opposite my Moon (and his Karma), and loosely conjunct my Chiron. My Amor's (obviously) in his 1H, and his is in my 9H.
-A.
and his does not aspect mine
but we have many other aspects that make us passionate for each other...but I will say I knew I liked him just from talking to him, and knew he is a catch. And so did he.
and in my birth chartAmour is in Taurus house 12squares Marstrines Saturn
Regarding the whole Amor-Psyche thing, I noticed something interesting. While it -seemed- like a sort of aspect we'd have, given the vibration between us, I was surprised to find it, in fact, just not there.
What I DID find, however, was this: the Amor/Psyche midpoint. I was really surprised to find that we both have the Amor/Psyche midpoint, despite, however, the placements being Taurus/Aquarius and Capricorn/Gemini.
Mine's 07 Libra, and his is 10. Pretty spiffy. Further, even though I haven't actually evaluated it as closely, I do know that mine is on his Juno. His is close enough to be conjunct mine, too, but it's a bit wide for my comfort.
Another interesting affinity: my Amor's dwad is Libra, his Psyche's decanate is in Libra; his Amor's decanate is in Capricorn, and dwad in Aquarius; my Psyche's decanate AND dwad are both Aquarius.
Not sure if the 'Psyche/Amor' MP actually counts, but I'm going to suggest it might.
Hmm ... wonder what Ceri might have to say about this.
I remember her saying somewhere (possibly on the HG thread) that only tight conjunctions to asteroid mps should be considered. Hope I'm right about this.
Anyway it'll be good if she sees this thread.
Thanks for the info, Indigo. Hope you're enjoying your writing.
quote:Originally posted by Lioness:I haven't really paid attention to amour, but I wanted too check..Fishy amour is conjunct my chiron...I do feel like he's suppose to somehow help me or heal me to a sense..Idk what it means though.
Lioness, Amor conjunct Chiron would be good to have for matters related to healing, I would think.
His Pisces/Neptune energy overall would also be able understand and empathize with your past wounds.
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Good descripton of how Amor feels, Linda Jones and Indigo Dirae.
Thanks, Ceri. And thanks for clearing up the info on mid-pts.
quote:Originally posted by Linda Jones: Lioness, Amor conjunct Chiron would be good to have for matters related to healing, I would think.His Pisces/Neptune energy overall would also be able understand and empathize with your past wounds.
Thanks Hon.
Very interesting outlook on Amor-Psyche, His Eros trines my Psyche would you say it's similar to your aspect? I'm also a Pisces moon btw ^^Wow I had no idea it could get that deep, it makes me really excited to know that we could have true unconditional love for eachother. Thank U
Hmm sounds similar, if not better than the Venus-Chiron conjunction. Nice
quote:Originally posted by Moonfish:@Linda Jones Thanks! I found it on google Very interesting outlook on Amor-Psyche, His Eros trines my Psyche would you say it's similar to your aspect? I'm also a Pisces moon btw ^^Wow I had no idea it could get that deep, it makes me really excited to know that we could have true unconditional love for eachother. Thank U
Eros/Psyche is actually a soul mate/TF aspect provided the orb is no more than 2 degrees for a trine.
Amor is different from Eros in that while Amor emphasizes the spiritual aspect, Eros represents spiritual/emotional and physical love. So with Amor/Psyche in synastry, there usually also has to be some other aspect like Adonis/Innanen, or Adonis/Astarte, to balance out the spectrum of human love.
quote:Originally posted by Moonfish:Oh I see! you've explained it better than the sites I've tried to research these aspects on I always thought eros-psyche was the ideal but I would much rather have a spiritual connection than a physical one.Your very lucky
Thanks I'm learning from some of the very best here - Ceri, Taineberry, and a lot of things from iQ too, even though he's so busy.
As far as aspects go if you have Amor/Psyche as well as Eros/Psyche or Amor/Psyche with one of the other aspects I mentioned, it is ideal, I would think.
As far as reality goes, I think having a spiritual/emotional connection is paramount in having that deep connection. But once you have that type of connection, there follows a natural tendency to express the emotional/spiritual connection thro physical intimacy which itself becomes very spiritual in nature, i.e., like the heiros gamos itself, which many TFs experience.
Do you have an idea about what this could mean? I know Amor is probably strong in my chart, considering the aspects with Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, AC and MC.
------------------I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.
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